Same Sex Marriage, A Ridiculous Sign, and Religious Special Treatment

Religions Purposefully Mislead Flocks

I was driving past the Bethany Lutheran Church in Duluth, MN yesterday and could not help but pause to take a picture of their current sign:

Bethany Lutheran Church, Duluth, MN

For those of you unfamiliar with the Marriage issue here in MN, here are the quick details.  Tuesday, MN residents will be voting on an Amendment to our Constitution that would define marriage as being between a man and woman.  Therefore, a yes vote would support the Amendment, and a no vote would be in opposition to adding this Amendment to our State Constitution.

As my regular readers will be aware, I am very much in support of same-sex marriage.  I have written extensively on this topic, you can read all of those posts here, as I don’t really want to get into that today.

Instead I want to focus on the blatant attempt at misdirection and political advertising from the Bethany Lutheran Church.  I cannot seem to find where in the bible that Jesus was speaking in Genesis 2.  I am a pretty competent reader and am fairly certain that I did not miss it (insert sarcasm when reading that last statement).  This sign is pure lunacy.  To me, it is one tiny piece of evidence in support of something that I believe—that most Christians have not read their bible and really have no clue what it says.  Further, I am quite sure that most people walking and driving by also have no clue what the bible states, but all know and probably respect the concept that is Jesus.  This sign is nothing more than pure propaganda of the sort that would make any politician proud…ie…full of shit.

I have to assume that the Pastor(s) of this church are well aware of the fact that Jesus does not make an appearance in Genesis (or anywhere in the Old Testament).  There is no reason to post a sign of this nature unless the goal is to purposefully mislead passers by.  This is pure dishonesty, that seems to becoming a hallmark of modern day Christianity.  It can no longer be allowed to stand unchallenged. (Yes I wrote a letter to the Pastor of the Church, I will update you all if I get a response).

Second, this sign, at least to me, is a clear violation of Church and State.  Churches should not be lobbying for political ends that do not affect them.  This Amendment will have zero impact on this church.  This is an important distinction to make.  As much I feel that the Catholic Church is incorrect in its view of the HHS mandate, I do understand why they are upset, as it can potentially affect them.  Same-sex marriage affects no one except for homosexuals.  This Church should not be posting signs of this nature…unless they agree to be treated like other corporations (which is really what churches are) and subject themselves to taxes.  If they agree to this, then they can post whatever nonsensical sign they want, so long as they are not infringing on the separation of Church and State.

The final issue that I want to bring up is a bit more complicated.  It is the height of hypocrisy that many Churches and theists wish to enter the political fray and use their religion their as justification for their beliefs, while at the same time, refusing to accept any criticism of those beliefs.  This is a situation that can no longer be allowed to stand.  If any of us says that we believe X because of Z, then the rest of us have the right to ask some questions about Z…unless Z is religious.  This hypocrisy and special treatment has gone on for far too long in the U.S.  It is time for us atheists and other secularly minded people to no longer accept the idea that religion is “off the table” of discussion.

Thanks for reading.  I look forward to your comments.

—-RB

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9 thoughts on “Same Sex Marriage, A Ridiculous Sign, and Religious Special Treatment

  1. GDad from Dublin, OH, United States

    I'm guessing that the concept of the trinitarian deity is what's in play here. Since god is supposed to be three aspects or three beings in one (father, son, and holy spirit), anything said by any of them is also said by the others.

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    1. Loren Miller from Bedford, OH, United States

      Maybe so, but at best, it's a bit of a reach, being that the events of the OT happened well before Haysus's time. Besides, have you ever noticed that that holy spook doesn't ever have a whole lot to say?

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  2. Loren Miller from Bedford, OH, United States

    "Same-sex marriage affects no one except for homosexuals."

    The above says it all, and I have yet to hear an argument from a believer which refutes that statement. They can yap all they want about slippery slopes and other specious arguments. Fact is, the issue of same-sex marriage is one of EQUAL RIGHTS, PERIOD.

    And while I'm at it, I want to give a shout out to Steve Shives, a YouTube atheist vlogger who is highlighting this issue and noting the four states where gay-marriage issues are being voted on. Do have a look and consider supporting his channel. Steve is good people and does a dinkum job on his channel.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIZChTepxMk

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  3. hausdorff from Troy, MI, United States

    I didn't even notice Jesus on the sign, in my mind I did a 'find and replace' of Jesus with God and I was thinking "what does Genesis 2 have to do with marriage?" It does name Eve as Adam's wife. So yes, Genesis 2 says that man is supposed to marry woman, but it also says that woman was grown out of man's rib while he took a nap. Gotta say I'm not impressed.

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  4. callmequirky from Portland, OR, United States

    My mother and I talked about the election the day after. She lives in WA State. I told her that I'm very happy about gay marriage being legal in 3 states. She called same sex couples who want the right to marry "whiners" because in at least a few states they already have civil unions and it's somehow infringing on the sanctity of marriage itself. Of course I didn't take that well and didn't reply with any decorum. She continued to talk about how it would be unfair to force preachers who don't want to marry them to do so. When I asked her how she felt about a white preacher refusing to marry a black couple in the south recently, she said it was sad and wrong. After listing all of the "causes" people have come up in arms quoting scripture to suit their needs, like women's equality/voting, civil rights… she still didn't see it the same way. Pointless to even speak to her.

    We should make it an issue, front and center, that if you are to keep tax exempt status you do not tell anyone how to vote. Don't even mention it.

    Also, favoritism for married people is completely unfair (even though I am married). There should be no tax, insurance, end of life… benefits to it. Single, head of household, married, living together should all be the same no matter what. Fighting for marriage equality is great and symbolic, but we should be fighting for all life choices equality.

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    1. reasonbeing from Duluth, MN, United States Post author

      People who are opposed to same-sex marriage are often impossible to deal with, at least in my opinion. The one thing I would add is that I don't know of anyplace that is proposing that religious leaders will need to carry out same-sex marriages. As far I am aware, it would all be done by the state.

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